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This (below) is a real solicitation I received in January 2001 by e-mail.  It is an example of the type of service that's available on the web from search engine optimizers (SEOs) and the fees they charge for their services.

Their full offer and contact information is included ... just in case you want to take them up on it.  If you hurry,  you can receive special offers limited to the first 100 purchasers.

It never ends. See the first lines from one received May 1, 2005 that is so ridiculous,  it is absurd!  The email subject line was:
                      Your Ranch web site is NOT being SEEN!

The sad part being that unless a person knows better, they might actually fall for it. Literally every explanation given about how search engines function is completely wrong.  How  I would love to to use his "method" and be done with the task.  (For ONLY £99.97)

Dear Harry  (I'm Harry???)
Here is the detaisl I spoke of.
Your Ranch WebiSite is
NOT Being SEEN!
WHY?
NO ONE CAN FIND IT!

YOUR web site is NOT on manyisearchi engines and at the Bottom of their listings and as a result

YOU are LOSING customers who cannot find you!

Can this be changed? YES!
Rockwell Data Group
ForiONLYi£99.97

We will submitiyour web site to over 850 of the worldstsearchiengines.
(see full list of SearchtEngines at the end of this document)

We will submittyour site with the most effective meta tags and keywords.
( See our moneytback guaranteey)
 

"We know what the search engines are looking for.

How do we know? We look at the top five web sites in your category and use the same meta tags and key words that they use.

If it works for them it will work for you!"

GIMMEE A BREAK!!  If that cheap trick would assure top search engine ranking,  everyone would be at the top.  Impossible!  The only thing they can guarantee is they will get money.  Lots of luck getting a refund from a company using a .@Yahoo.co.uk  email address.


Or,  you can get excellent search engine placement 
without  extra fees by advertising at HorsesOnly.com  
It comes with the territory.


Here are a few more emails you can expect in droves.  Since many of you contact me and ask if your should be doing this,  I present these as typical examples of computer generated solicitations by people who probably haven't even looked at your site to determine whether or not you have a good search ranking.   Nobody can promise you #1 search rankings.  What they are really wanting to do is SELL you paid positioning in various search engines or directories.

Do YOU pay attention to the "sponsored" results at the top of some search engine query results?  Not me!  I want to find sites whose honest ranking,  according to site content, makes them the most likely place on the web to have what I am looking for.  The idea that anyone can buy their way to the top of a search result offends me,  and people who make a business out of worrying the public and asking for their money to provide a useless "service" is something that should be exposed for what it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hoyson [mailto:benhoyson@free.com.pe]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
To: benhoyson@free.com.pe  (funny,  how it it get to my email box?)
Subject: Place 1

Our company will now place any business with a qualified website at the top of the major search engines. (ex: Yahoo!, MSN, Alta Vista, etc.). (Oh dear, they left off the best one: Google ... who can't be bought.) This promotion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long. If you are interested in being guaranteed first position in the top search engines at a promotional fee, please reply to us promptly to find out if you qualify. PLEASE INCLUDE THE URL or WEB SITE ADDRESS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PROMOTING. This is not pay per click. Examples will be provided.

Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.

Sincerely,
The Search Engine Specialists
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Internet gratis en: http://www.free.com.pe
Americatel Internet Free  (love those disposable email accounts)
Tu conexión Free más rápida

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony [mailto:anthony@seplogic.com]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:09 PM 
Does this look like spam to you?
To: tkinloch@kinlochequip.com; svs@intetics.com; arthur1818@aol.com; jogsshow@yahoo.com; pianotom@msn.com; parts4pc@bellsouth.ne; tjimott@charter.net; greengate@usa.com; kathYsharon@comcast.net; info@celasmaya.edu.gt; patricia@server145.highprofilehosting.com; hoofnote@wamego.net; Mark@Marklavertonclocks.com
Cc: anthony@seplogic.com
Subject: UPDATED CONTACT INFO  (VERY misleading subject line)


My name is Anthony and I am with the company SEP logic LLC. What we do is SEARCH ENGINE PLACEMENT. What that does is takes your existing web-site and places it on the top of page one, on the YAHOO! Search engine, under the KEY-TERMS we discuss. As well as thirteen others. We will work on a month to month agreement so there are no “tie downs” or contracts. You are more than welcome to try out a few phrases for a month or two, and continue or cancel at your own digression. We can guarantee to keep you on the top position or your money back. By doing this your site will be on top of your competition, giving you all of the business. Pricing is a per case basis and will be determined by the search volume and popularity of your phrase. Some phrases are as little as $25.00 a month. With an initial $200.00 one time set up fee. There will be NO downloading, updating, pay-per-click, or changing your site at all. It is strictly a flat monthly total. We do all of the work for you. If you have ANY questions or comments please feel free to contact me at the info below. I appreciate your time and business. It is my job to keep you fully satisfied with our service.

www.seplogic.com  Please check out our site!

Thank you,
Anthony Palacio
Senior Account Executive
SEP logic LLC
949.951.7100 ext;263
949.768.4612 fax.
anthony@seplogic.com
anthonyign@yahoo.com

CUSTOMER SERVICE 949.595.8416
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If you want the TRUTH about how you are coming up on the web,  use the Google search boxes at the foot of this column,  where you can search our web site,  or the entire web.  Do both! <click>

11-29-04
AnnetteWilson  < promo11@goddess.zzn.com >
Hello.

85% of all Internet surfers are directed by search engines. Search Engines are the super powerful traffic solution on the Internet.
Your web site: http://www.triplechallengefuturity.com
can be evaluated for FREE for its keyword placement in the top twenty major search engines. By evaluate, we mean taking the search words that are important to your web site and checking the results of those words in the top twenty search engines to determine your web site's placement within those results. We will create a report that displays the results, and then a professional evaluator will look at your site to see if there is any 'search engine hostile' content. This valuable service is simply free for you as our gift. To take part in our free offer, simply click the link below:
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I think you will be very surprised by the detail and results of our analysis.

If by some misunderstanding we sent this email, click reply and type 'take away' in the subject line.
Annette Wilson
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11-29-04
marybeth@speedy.com.pe  (Peru)
Dear Customer,

Be the very first listing in the top search engines immediately.

Our company will now place any business with a qualified website permanently at the top of the major search engines guaranteed never to move (ex: Yahoo!, MSN, Alta Vista, etc.). (You will notice that Google is not listed here.  Google will not be "bought" and they know better than to even try it! ~ editor ) This promotion includes unlimited traffic and is not going to last long.  If you are interested in being guaranteed first position in the top search engines at a promotional fee, please contact us promptly to find out if you qualify via email at marybeth@speedy.com.pe  PLEASE INCLUDE THE URL(s) YOUR ARE INTERESTED IN PROMOTING. This is not pay per click. Examples will be provided.

Sincerely,

The Search Engine Placement Specialists


Excerpts from the spam:

"The YAHOO BACKDOOR and YAHOO SECRETS to get  listed in YAHOO. (some services will change you $2,000 to  get a YAHOO listing. Now you can learn how to get a guaranteed listing yourself."

"Normally we charge $750 for three keywords that you want top ranking on (plus a monthly fee of $150 for keeping that rank.)  but we found that we just don’t have the time for all the clients that desperately need out services."

"Contact us today using the Risk free Response form and you can have all out secrets for only $169.00 (+ $5.00 shipping and handling.)"

"This price wouldn’t buy you 10 minutes of our time at our regular submission fees, but you can own the top search engine positions for less than the cost of a few classified ads. You will be learning everything that we know about top positioning,"

The whole message

Dear Friend,

Remember the first time you built a web site?
You spent weeks, perhaps months on it. It was your masterpiece.
You showed it to all of your family and friends and everyone loved it.

THE WORLD WAS GOOD!
Then you ran out of people to show it to. It was time to start the “Internet Marketing” that you had heard so much about.

You surfed the net and found tons of web sites that offered free submissions to Free for All Link Pages and free classified sites. “This is easy”, you thought as You went to bed dreaming of all the visitors your web site would have.

They would be impressed with your site, and buy your product. You couldn’t understand what all the fuss was about, people everywhere were complaining about not getting any traffic to their sites and in one  night  You had outsmarted them all and placed your web site in thousands of sites with just a few clicks.

Then NOTHING happened!

Your traffic counters didn’t move.
Your orders didn’t sail in.
No one was sending you inquiries about your product or services.

So…
You returned to the secret sites that you had bookmarked, and submitted your site a few more times. Still NOTHING happened.

Then….
Then, as you surfed the web for more free places to list your site you noticed little blurbs about search engines. You had heard the warnings from the FFA and classified sites about them so you didn’t think much about them. Besides, the other promotion sites PROMISED thousands of hits daily.

And you BELIEVED them!

So you waited, weeks and months passed again, still NOTHING!

Finally, you realized that search engines just might be the answer. You found some search engines and submitted your web site to them. “AH!” you thought, “Now they will come.” You knew that search engines could take weeks to list you, so you waited patiently. You were confident your site would be recognized by the engine owners as a masterpiece and would get top placement.

Again weeks and months went by. NOTHING!
You checked your URL to see if it was listed. NOTHING!
You even typed in your own name to see if it would come up. 
NOTHING!

WELCOME TO SEARCH ENGINE HELL!

You don’t work the Internet, it works you.
You can’t even get listed in any the search engines.
You slaved over your web site only to see it ranked last.
You hired a webmaster thinking he was the answer to your problems.
You still can’t get in the top 20 of ANY search engine.
You thought that putting up a web site was all that you had to do.
You thought that they were kidding when you heard 
that web site promotion was a full time job.
You just don’t have the time or knowledge to get a better 
placement.

This is where most people give up.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO!!!

TIRED OF BEING IN SEARCH ENGINE HELL?

THEN LET US HELP YOU GET OUT!

…SEARCH ENGINE SECRETS REVEALED…
FINALLY A SEARCH ENGINE GURU SPEAKS OUT 
AND 
TELLS YOU EXACTLY HOW TO GET LISTED IN THE 
SEARCH ENGINES TOP TEN.

Discover the same tricks and strategies that they use everyday to keep their top 10 standings.

Many claiming to be experts try to sell you on an automated tool they use. If they worked people everywhere would be swarming to the stores to buy them,  BUT THEYRE NOT!

We will give you something YOU CAN USE…REAL INFO 
that you can use to send every one of your websites straight 
to the top of the search engines!

Now you can learn the TIPS, TRICKS, AND STRATEGIES 
the gurus use everyday. You can get your website listed in the 
TOP 10 RANKING.

If your website isn’t listed in the top 10, it could be that you’re not doing anything wrong. The problem is
….YOU’RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT!

We have put together the ULTIMATE POWER CD: “Search Engine Hell: 
How to get out of search engine hell and obtain top 10 Search Engine Rankings.”

This is a POWERFULL CD, packed with INFORMATION,  TOOLS, SECRETS, AND RESOURCES to help you vault your website to the top of  the search engines!.

DISCOVER:
What works and what doesn’t and what can get you BANNED from the search engines.
What the search engines are looking for as they rank your site.
How you can be assured of getting a top ten ranking.
The YAHOO BACKDOOR and YAHOO SECRETS to get  listed in YAHOO. (some services will change you $2,000 to  get a YAHOO listing. Now you can learn how to get a guaranteed listing yourself.

LEARN: The SECRETS and TRICKS of optimizing your website placement, without having to hire someone to do it for you!
How one website got ranked in the top 1% of over 230 keywords, and how you can too.
How to get people to click on your listing.
How to keep your listing once you get it.
How to get GUARANTEED traffic to your website from 
people ready to buy your product or service.

We will give you INSTANT ACCESS to our SEARCH ENGINE TOOLBOX which gives you the tools and resources you need to start using the secrets and tips we teach you on your very own website. Valuable tools such as:

Meta Tag Generators – tool that will create your meta tags for you!
Doorway Page Generator – will design doorway pages for you based on specific keywords and phrases ... a must to rank high in keyword-specific categories.

Keyword Suggestions and Rankings – we’ll give you access to  the best-kept secret in town!  Find out what people are typing into the engines for any keyword and phrase in order of popularity.

Search Engine Position analyzer – Find out which search engines are listing you website and what position it is ranked in. This will save you hundreds of hours of trying to find your website in all the different engines.

Make your own logos and graphics and use the alt tag trick that we teach you! It’s simple!!

Find out what people are typing into search engines “LIVE”. We give you a program that allows you to watch what keywords and phrases people are typing into the top 3 search engines as it’s happening.

Counter to place on your website so you can see where people are coming from to access your website.

Access to Search Engine Forums.

Your own search engine to make your own website look like a search engine portal.  Targeted Search Engine Directory and complete listing of International Search Engines.

Automated submissions to the top 20 Search Engines.
Talk with Search Engine Gurus! Find out where they hang out  and talk to them yourself.

These are SECRETS that the gurus use everyday, now you can discover them for yourself.

You will be AMAZED how easy it is to go from last to first place!

In fact it is so easy that anyone can do it! The problem is…this  is closely guarded information. Unless you know it, you’re always going to be left in last place.

Now you can have the information at your fingertips! You can achieve top 10 positioning for your website, and the tens of thousands of hits that come with it.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Infoseek, Alta Vista and HotBot ban websites that break their rules (many of the ‘insider’ techniques so called “Experts" will recommend will get you banned faster than you can imagine.  Many search engines limit the number of pages you can submit from your domain. (some only allow one in order to get the best results) We can show you techniques we use to get hundreds of our pages listed.

Yahoo only lists about 1% of the web in their actual directory. 
In order to get listed, you may have to use the “BACKDOOR.” Using so-called search engine submission software that submits your site to 1000 or more search engines could actually get your page deleted from the major search engines.

Choosing the most effective “keywords” is one of the major keys to a successful website submission. Pick the right ones and your site will look like grand central station during rush hour. 95% of Internet traffic originates at one of the 10 major search engines… If you‘re not listed you might as well not even have a website.

It has taken us over 2 years to learn how to place any type of website in the top 10 consistently.

Normally we charge $750 for three keywords that you want top ranking on (plus a monthly fee of $150 for keeping that rank.)  but we found that we just don’t have the time for all the clients that desperately need out services.

So, we produced a SEARCH ENGINE HELL CD-ROM that will show you step by step how to get out of “search Engine Hell”  The SEARCH ENGINE HELL CD-ROM consists of the different key area that will give you access to the top 10 rankings. We give you the info and tools we use to obtain thousands of visitors to you websites every single day.

You will learn:
THREE DIFFERENT METHODS we use to pick the best traffic producing keywords for any website…and how you can have a list of hundreds of popular keywords in only a few minutes.

How QUICK and EASY it is to create DOORWAY and HALLWAY pages so that you could have thousands of different pages on your domain, all pulling in visitors for your site 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

The SECRET WEAPON that gives you an unfair advantage over your competition…and virtually assures that you will reach the top positions. (Don’t let you competitors hear about this one first or you will be in trouble)

How to submit your pages to assure that every one gets listed. 
(and how to avoid getting banned)

How to use Pay-per-Click search engines to receive over 10,000 visitors for only $100.

The infamous YAHOO BACKDOOR. You can get listed and we will show you the easiest and quickest method for doing so.

PLUS MUCH MORE…

EVEN BETTER, YOU CAN GET THE SAME RESULTS FOR A FRACTION OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE PAID FOR THEM.

LISTEN: A lot of people are going to be furious with me for sharing these “insider secrets” with you…especially since you won’t be paying anything close to what they had to shell out for that one top positioning page.

SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHILE YOU CAN!!!

Contact us today using the Risk free Response form and you can have all out secrets for only $169.00 (+ $5.00 shipping and handling.)

This price wouldn’t buy you 10 minutes of our time at our regular submission fees, but you can own the top search engine positions for less than the cost of a few classified ads. You will be learning everything that we know about top positioning,

That my friend, is the bargain of a lifetime for a serious Internet marketer like yourself. What’s more the money is almost irrelevant because….

You also get a 30-day No-Risk Money-back guarantee.

Here is how it works, Order your personal copy of this CD, use it as much as you like. If for any reason at all, you aren’t completely satisfied after 30 days (by which time I had 62 top positions for my own web site), just send the CD back and I  personally guarantee you a complete refund of the purchase price. No questions asked. No forms to fill our. No problems at all.

PLUS, You will also receive what is considered by most to be the ultimate bonus.

The first 100 people who order will also receive UNLIMITED REPRINT AND REPRODUCTION RIGHTS to this CD-ROM for LIFE

I am not going to allow this CD-ROM to become like many of those aver advertised product you see, so only the first 100 will receive these rights.

This means that you will be able to use this exact same sales letter, copy the CD-ROM and sell it yourself.  For $169.00 a copy, sell one and you will be breaking even, Sell two and you make a profit! This is in addition to what the CD-ROM can do for you website.

Since only 100 people are going to be given these rights, you must take action today!

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